Imagine you’re in your doctor’s office and you’ve just been told you have diabetes. Your life is changed forever. You have so many questions, but don’t know where to start. You’re speechless. As you finally find your voice to ask how this could’ve happened to you, the doctor says, “You should have known better.”

That was Tara’s experience when, as an adult already living with obesity, she learned she had type 2 diabetes (T2D). It negatively shaped the way she saw herself and others with T2D for years.

Scott, a Novo Nordisk employee, remembers being diagnosed with type 1 diabetes (T1D) as a kid in a more positive light. He was scared at first, but with some words of encouragement from his dad he felt ready to take on his new life with diabetes.

Tara and Scott recently talked about how the differences in their diagnosis stories illustrate the differences they see in how society treats people with T1D and T2D. While some of their experiences have been different, both Tara and Scott agree that it’s time to reduce stigma and bias towards people with all types of diabetes.

Listen to their conversation below.